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EllenA's avatar

Everyone, please spread this post far and wide. There will be no real change to benefit society until people understand everything in this post.

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fossil/nuclear fuels are killing us all.

the concerns about the eco=impact of manufacturing and siting more wind & solar & batteries etc are well-taken. it all must be done in eco-harmony, with nothing made that can't be recycled, with as little eco-impact as possible, and with no disturbed eco-system left un-remediated. .

but we have no choice except to convert our global energy supply to renewable sources.

we can certainly lower our consumption with increased efficiency and by diminishing many forms of consumption (we can start with billionaire yachts...and with factory-produced meat consumption).

we can also lower population growth, and then population itself, by supporting the natural progress of the empowerment of women, which constantly results in lower birth rates, and will continue to do so the foreseeable future. sooner or later, Mother Earth will synch up with human mothers in terms of what our sustainable number really must be.

wind turbines require an acre or less of land per tower. the bird kill problem must be dealt with. there are health issues to be dealt with, and possible marine impacts off shore.

solar panels must be self-sustaining, ie the factories that make them must themselves be solar-powered. agri-voltaic means the panels on farmland must be high enough off the ground to allow crops (obviously shade plants).

ultimately wind and agri-solar must be a player in keeping farmers on the land with the added income they can provide. and covering every rooftop with solar panels before we encroach on farmland is best of all, especially considering the transmission costs that will avoid.

again, there are emf, dirty energy and other factors to account for....and to be solved.

lithium for vehicle batteries will be hard to replace in the short-term. but sodium will very soon be far cheaper and more sustainable for steady-state facilities.

all this is easy to attack. but no one should do so without comparing the lethal costs of continuing with King CONG (coal, oil, nukes & gas). our species will not survive with the continued use of fossil/nuclear fuels.

we can certainly envision a simpler, cleaner existence for human civilization with far less energy use.

but that will also have its own costs, especially in the challenge of supporting a (for at least the next century) growing human population, and a planet filled with humans who are not being adequately fed, housed, kept healthy, educated, etc.

we are not looking at a vector right now where simplification of our existence on this planet will happen fast enough to allow us to phase out fossil/nuclear fuels in time for our survival.

increased efficiency will help. but the transition to renewables is an absolute necessity.

raising the issues of their ecological impact is essential. we most certainly need to solve them as we evolve to a green-powered earth.

it will be a close call. but writing off these technologies rather than solving their flaws is not an option. fortunately, they are simpler, cheaper, safer, cleaner, more reliable and more job-producing to deal with than the fossil/nuclear curse that threatens to kill us all.

our survival on this planet means going green in a sane, responsible manner. calling out these new technologies' flaws, and seizing the opportunities to correct then, without negating them altogether, should allow us to do just that.

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